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if they continue than path they'll lose texas, north carolina florida. that's a formula in politics, you want to grow. you don't want to shrink. that is incumbent on the president to provide a framework. democrats should not think about this issue as we're better than republicans. democrats need to look at how important the latino population is to our country day in and day out, they are a part of our future. it needs to be more than we're better than the republicans, and this is a big ton consistent constituency and we need to support them. >> gavin: the gay marriage, two states affirmative and then they pull back in minnesota because of draconian legislation. you were in the thick of it. this is toxic even in our own party. >> look, you have been one of the singular leaders on this and demonstrated the courage on this issue, right? i think i would imagine for someone like yourself this is great. >> gavin: i'm not going it deny that. >> as i said, it's always better to be on the right side of history, an to be there early. >> at the wrong time. >> no, i
if they continue than path they'll lose texas, north carolina florida. that's a formula in politics, you want to grow. you don't want to shrink. that is incumbent on the president to provide a framework. democrats should not think about this issue as we're better than republicans. democrats need to look at how important the latino population is to our country day in and day out, they are a part of our future. it needs to be more than we're better than the republicans, and this is a big ton...
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florida. that's a formula politics, as you know, you want to grow. you don't want to do things that shrink. that's an area that is incumbent on the president to give a framework. i say this as a democrat. democrats shouldn't just talk about this issue as we're better than republicans. i mean, democrats need to be very affirmative about how important the latino population is to our country. they did great things day in an day out. they're a great part of our future, and it has to be more than hey we're better than the republicans. this is a very important constituency and we need to do right by them. >> gavin: what about gay marriage. there are some final counts in washington state but the three states--two states affirmative and the one that pulled back in minnesota some draconian legislation. what is your sense of that. you were in the thick of it, this was toxic even within our own party. >> look, you have been one of the singular leaders on this and demonstrated courage on this issue, so i imagine for someone like yourself this is great to see. >>
florida. that's a formula politics, as you know, you want to grow. you don't want to do things that shrink. that's an area that is incumbent on the president to give a framework. i say this as a democrat. democrats shouldn't just talk about this issue as we're better than republicans. i mean, democrats need to be very affirmative about how important the latino population is to our country. they did great things day in an day out. they're a great part of our future, and it has to be more than...
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we saw it in florida, ohio, pennsylvania. if ever there were a need to justify why having interventions like the voting rights act and other laws are in place, we have that. i think there is now clearly an emerging consensus. how extensive it is, we don't know. i think both republicans and democrats saw those eight hour lines and said you can't have this in kabul and baghdad and now you have it in the united states. we have to address that. >> let me ask this. much of it was not happening in the south. it was happening in plea clearance states. is that exactly the reason to do away with preclearance and say, well, you know, if it's happening in ohio and pennsylvania? >> no. i think that this president absolutely has to use the bully pulpit to an extent. he's a former con law professor to explain to the country why this is so vital and important. when they hear things about supreme court cases, illegal things, they check out. >> they glaze over. >> something that affects everyone. it affects women, it disproportionately affect
we saw it in florida, ohio, pennsylvania. if ever there were a need to justify why having interventions like the voting rights act and other laws are in place, we have that. i think there is now clearly an emerging consensus. how extensive it is, we don't know. i think both republicans and democrats saw those eight hour lines and said you can't have this in kabul and baghdad and now you have it in the united states. we have to address that. >> let me ask this. much of it was not happening...
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if you look at colorado, ohio, florida, new mexico, arizona these states are becoming blue states because of the latino vote. joe, i just got to be of the view that mitt romney, if he took one lesson away from this, is that he was completely wrong in the emgrace of embrace of that view and it cost him the presidency. >> that is the lesson. they just have to look at the table and look at long-term friends, the republican base rather, of older white voters is going to be a distinct minority. it's been going down every year as a portion of the electorate, and it's going to be very small 2025 and so looking out it behooves them to resolve this sooner than later. they're going to have a problem battling the jan brewers of the world and the base in trying to convince them because it's been so hard for them to hear reality so far this election cycle even though the statistics point to the fact that this is the way to go. you still have a lot of voices out there who are saying we don't want to do it, and we're going to fight for the last person. that last person may get. but certainly they're goi
if you look at colorado, ohio, florida, new mexico, arizona these states are becoming blue states because of the latino vote. joe, i just got to be of the view that mitt romney, if he took one lesson away from this, is that he was completely wrong in the emgrace of embrace of that view and it cost him the presidency. >> that is the lesson. they just have to look at the table and look at long-term friends, the republican base rather, of older white voters is going to be a distinct...